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an ousting.

A close-up of a person holding a phone and wearing a white t-shirt with red embroidered text that says 'I AM GREAT THANKS'. They are also wearing a green fleece jacket.
the shirt i wore today, which turned out to be surprisingly appropriate (pretending you’re fine but feeling kind of shit)

bit of a dramatic morning today.

some background: i work for a church called christ church west green, which was planted by a church called st. saviours, which in turn was planted by a church called king’s cross church (kxc). we’re all part of a network of churches called the table network, along with a few other kxc plants. kxc does not hold an affirming theology and neither do any of their plants, except for us.

and so we’re essentially being kicked out of the table network (it’s probably more of a mutual agreement) because we have a more progressive and inclusive (affirming) view of sexuality, and it’s incompatible with their doctrine. i knew going into today that this would be our last meeting with them (we have a joint prayer gathering at the beginning of every month) and i’m not exactly sure what i was expecting, but it wasn’t whatever that was.

the meeting started typically enough, with encouraging stories, time for worship, time for prayer, but then pete (a lead pastor at kxc, who runs the meetings) said we were going to pray for some churches in the ‘family’.

apparently, one of the churches based in wales is essentially being forced to leave the church of wales (which as an institution holds and mandates an inclusive and affirming theology) and plant a new church so they can hold onto their exclusive and non-affirming doctrine.

so everyone gathered around them to pray, reaching out, closing their eyes, praising them for being so courageous in resisting the pressure to welcome gay people wholeheartedly to be part of their church just as they are, no ifs ands or buts. the gist of all the prayers was that they were being led by the spirit, that God was with them as they fought the good fight against the evils of creating a safe and inclusive space where lgbt+ people are free to worship and love God without believing a part of them is fundamentally wrong. and obviously they weren’t using those exact words, but it’s what i was hearing.

to me, they were praying for the strength and provision to bravely continue to exclude, marginalize and other; make people feel less than, less worthy of love, less holy, less able to inherit the kingdom of God because they just aren’t trying hard enough to be straight or celibate, they just don’t have enough faith.

and then later, they offered to pray for us, and i thought, pray for what? for us to fail? for us to finally see the light and once again tell queer people that they either have to pray the gay away or die celibate and sexless, which, if they just looked at it in the right way, is a gift?

pete explained we were leaving the table network due to a difference in beliefs about sexuality; that though we weren’t going to be part of the ‘family’ anymore, he was hopeful we could all remain great friends. then chris (my vicar, who i’m so proud of) said some kind words, and as all this was happening, something was bubbling up in me, this restlessness, this creeping anxiety, a form of suffocation.

i remembered all of the nights i spent quietly crying in my bedroom as a teen, journaling about how i felt disgusting and damned, praying that God would change me. every night, praying He would make me straight. every night the same prayer, learning to hate the way i loved, the crushes i had, the way i craved intimacy and affection just like anyone else. and i remembered not being able to tell my parents because no matter how much i knew they loved me, God said it wasn’t right, and they loved God, so what would happen?

it was destructive, it was unholy, it was something so many gay christians can relate to and are still experiencing today. i had to work to love myself, and by some form of grace, i came to believe God loves me too, not in spite of who i am, but because of it.

and so sitting there earlier, listening to everyone praying to strengthen this church in wales that will almost certainly lead to little boys and girls spending nights crying in their bedrooms, feeling disgusting and damned, something rose in me. and as chris was about to pass the mic back, i asked for it, and i stood up, and i said something along the lines of:

“hi everyone, i’m obed, and i’m gay. i just want everyone to understand the reality of this situation. there are parts of me that are feeling rejected, there are parts of me that feel excluded, and this is all bringing up a lot of trauma, all the work i had to do to learn to love myself in the church. you say that we’re invited, we’re invited, but when push comes to shove, we’re not, and it’s sad to me that we can no longer be part of your family because of this. hopefully we can still be friends. it was nice to meet those of you i met, and thank you for including us up to the point that you did, but honestly, the lived, emotional reality of this experience is really uncomfortable so i’m just gonna go.”

and then i grabbed my things and left, the room in total silence other than pete saying “thanks for sharing, obed.”

i got some nice, supportive messages from people after, and chris and i debriefed when we got back to our church. he told me that after i left, they talked about how these conversations are real and important, that there are real consequences and that they shouldn’t trivialize these things. they had a moment of silence, to dwell in the moment and process everything i guess?

but honestly, the sequence of events felt either completely thoughtless and unconscientious, or pointed and intentional. like, did they really not think about how a queer person in that room might feel in the face of all of this? you’re literally praying for a church to stay strong so that they don’t have to (meaningfully) include people like me and become like my church, which in their eyes seems to have fallen from grace and truth in allowing people to remain content on their path to hell. you can say you’re simply holding on to your scriptural truths and convictions, that you’re only trying to do what’s right, but these things don’t exist in a vacuum, and real, ongoing harm is being done in the name of these views.

i’m glad i said my piece, even though there’s so much more to say, so much more i wish i’d said. but chris is right in that this is such a delicate conversation, and the gracious thing to do is to learn how to hold all of these tensions, learn how to make space for these disagreements, with love and mercy and compassion, trusting that God is at work, even here.

i just think that if you’re going to hold onto a theology that can do (and has historically done) so much harm and lead to so much pain, heartbreak, often even death, you have a responsibility to pursue real, loving relationship with the people you might be hurting; listen to what they have to say, try to understand their perspective and pain. the stakes are too high. real people are suffering. what are the fruits of your doctrine? how are you building the kingdom of God with all different kinds of people?

i can tell you right now that in the entire time we went to those joint prayer gatherings, maybe three out of around thirty-five kxc staff members ever started a conversation with me, and that’s all i really needed to know.


but then later, during dinner with my church small group, i felt so held. i felt a true sense of community, sharing with others, being with people who really see me and care about me. and i remembered that there is goodness here, that there is hope and joy and true solidarity.

i felt the deep and unwavering love of God.


Responses

  1. Abby Sosa Avatar
    Abby Sosa

    Obed you are one of my truly favourite people! Because of who you are! Because God is so alive in you. I wish I could hug you so tight right now! But also- I’m glad I wasn’t there because I’m protective of my people and I may have had to say some Bible College Educated words! Love you!

    1. Obed Cundangan Avatar
      Obed Cundangan

      Thank you, Abby – I appreciate it! Love and miss you 💖

  2.  Avatar
    Anonymous

    You are one of my favourite people! ❤️

    1. Obed Cundangan Avatar
      Obed Cundangan

      💖🥹

      1. Mrs Celia E B Webster Avatar
        Mrs Celia E B Webster

        Obed your reply is so gracious and full of love – way beyond mine – all I can say is fuck these fucking Pharisees – we all know that Jesus was only really angry with the religious bigots who thought they were better than others but lacked true understanding and love – sorry everyone for my choice of words but this is so opposite of the Jesus I know and love – how dare they ask to be friends when they outwardly reject your whole being-

      2. Obed Cundangan Avatar
        Obed Cundangan

        thank you, celia! and i get it, i totally understand the anger and the saddening sense of hypocrisy and inadequate ‘love’. hopefully all of this can in some small way lead to important conversations that bear true love, compassion and unity, and to the true working of God’s infallible will 🙏

  3. Rowena Avatar
    Rowena

    I can almost hear Yahweh saying: “Well done, my beloved child Obed.” ❤️

    1. Obed Cundangan Avatar
      Obed Cundangan

      thank you, mom!! ❤️❤️❤️

  4. Katie Roberts Avatar
    Katie Roberts

    I don’t know you Obed, but I see you as my brother in Christ. Wholly loved and perfect as you are. Thank you for your courage and I pray you continue to find some peace and a home in your inclusive church. See you for a pint in heaven sometime? Much love

    1. Obed Cundangan Avatar
      Obed Cundangan

      thank you for the kind words and solidarity, it really means a lot 💖

      and yes to the heavenly pint haha

  5. Mrs Celia E B Webster Avatar
    Mrs Celia E B Webster

    Ok – so after my initial angry outpouring , I’ve taken time and have now read the Saint saviour’s stance on “generous orthodoxy “- it says that LGBTQ plus people are brothers and sisters in Christ, but then ask them not to fully live, love, marry or be recognised equally. I don’t believe this is generosity, it is conditional welcome.

    It treats gay love as a theological problem not a human good. A faithful, loving life -long sex marriage can show the fruits Christians claim to value – commitment, sacrifice, honesty, tenderness, stability and care. Condemning that seems at odds with Jesus‘s teaching that “by the fruits you will know them”.

    Jesus never condemns gay people or same-sex marriage. Jesus says nothing directly against homosexuality. In fact we don’t know whether he was gay or straight. But he says a great deal about love, Mercy, hypocrisy, exclusion, religious burden making and the danger of leaders shutting people out of God‘s kingdom.

    Jesus repeatedly challenged religious systems when they harm people. He healed on the Sabbath, touched the excluded, defended the shame, criticise leaders who loaded burdens onto others. A stance that causes LGBTQ plus Christian shame, secrecy, family rejection or spiritual harm looks very unlike Jesus.

    Marriage between a man and a woman is not the whole biblical picture. As we know the Bible contains polygamy, patriarchal marriage, arrange marriage, concubines, women treated as property et cetera Christians already interpret scriptures through the lens of Christ, justice in love. So it’s inconsistent claim one simple historic model settles everything.

    The final paragraph is especially troubling I think. It says people may hold a different View but must not actively promote it. That means LGBTQ plus people and allies may be tolerated only if they do not challenge the church’s position. That is not genuine dialogue, it is controlled descent. It confuses unity with compliance. Real Christian unity is not achieved by asking the marginalised to stay quiet. Jesus unity is built around truth, justice, repentance and love, not preserving institutional comfort.

    It risks making the Church unsafe for LGBTQ plus people. Even if the wording is gentle the messages – your love is not equal, your marriage is not holy, and you’re full inclusion is a threat to our teaching. Many would argue Jesus would abhor that because it wounds people in God‘s name.

    Jesus consistently moved towards the excluded, challenged religious gatekeeping and judge teaching by its fruit. A faithful same-sex marriage is rooted in love, covenant, mutual service and truth which bears good fruit. A church stance that denies equal dignity while calling yourself generous, risks become exactly the kind of religious hypocrisy Jesus condemned!

    1. Obed Cundangan Avatar
      Obed Cundangan

      thank you for taking the time to write all this, celia, and thank you for your passion and solidarity – it really means a lot ❤️

      i definitely agree that a non-affirming stance seems irreconcilably at odds with Jesus’s wider teachings on love, mercy, compassion, and care for the vulnerable and marginalised, and even seems at odds with an all-loving, all-powerful God.

      i’m hoping that in conversations moving forward, both sides will come with a spirit of true generosity, openness and love to at least genuinely hear each other out – after all, on our part, i think we need to have grace for people who truly think they are doing what is spirit-led and right by God, even if it does seem misguided to us and inevitably leads to all the harm you’ve mentioned. there can be no inward change without true dialogue (i.e. forced change is not good change), and at the end of the day, i imagine one side is going to have to eventually account for the error of their ways.

      lots to think think about, but i am confident that in the end, God’s love and truth will ultimately prevail!

      1. Celia Webster Avatar
        Celia Webster

        Yes to all this, Obed! We all know all the examples throughout the ages and ongoing of so many harmful things done in the name of Christianity and what people were convicted was what God wanted- the crusades, the inquisition, witch trials, colonialism and forced conversions- destruction of indigenous cultures, slavery and racism and white supremacy, residential schools for indigenous children, abuse of women, persecution of Jews, Christian Nationalism , conversion therapy to name a few and and ongoing prejudice to lgbtqia!! Not a great track record!!!

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